JOHN 7:37-53 (NASU) LIVING WATER, FALLACIES OF DEBATE


37 Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.”

A short reminder that this was the Feast of Tabernacles or Booths. Everyone was supposed to live in temporary shelters for the full week to remind them of their ancestor’s journey from Egypt to the Promised Land. Each day, a priest would go to the pool of Siloam to draw water in a golden pitcher. He would take it to the temple where it would be poured into a basin with holes in it – a drink offering. This was a reminder of the water that was provided for the Israelites in the desert upon leaving Egypt. The last day was the culmination of the feast and was also the day that Haggai prophesied about rebuilding the temple which has elements of Jesus return included (Hag 2:1-9).[1]

In this setting, Jesus interrupts the proceedings or perhaps makes his announcement after the water has been poured out. Three times in the exodus, the Israelites grumbled about not having enough water (Ex 15:24, 17:3, Num 20:5). He is explicitly telling the people assembled in Jerusalem that it wasn’t Moses who provide water for them, but God. Now, their greatest thirst and that of any person will be fulfilled if they come to Jesus. He is echoing what the Lord told the people hundreds of years before. “Is anyone thirsty? Come and drink—even if you have no money!” (Isa 55:1 NLT).

What a testimony about the grace of God! If we truly thirst for God, we can come to him and be satisfied. It doesn’t cost us anything, except to humble ourselves and admit our need. We can’t do anything to earn our salvation. It is a free gift.

38 “He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” 39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Jesus doesn’t stop at saying that the gift of salvation is free. He adds the qualifier that we must believe in him. It is free from works but salvation must still come from faith in Jesus. He also explains that when we believe, we will have living water flowing from us. Jesus must have stitched together several portions of Scripture and summed them up their meaning. We can see this in Isaiah 12:3 where God says we will drink for the fountain of salvation. It reflects the water flowing from the temple in Ezekiel which causes the Dead Sea to blossom with life (Eze 47:1-12). The stream just kept getting bigger and bigger which is what should be happening with each of us we grow in our walk with the Lord. We grow in our knowledge and love of the Lord leading to a more holy witness to the world. This is the new life created by the Holy Spirit as Jesus told the woman by the well (John 4:13).

Again, we must point out that there is some bad news in Jesus’ words. The Spirit only comes to those who receive Jesus. He isn’t given to the whole world, meaning all people. The Bible repeats this exclusion and inclusion over and over. It has been summarized on bumper stickers, “Know Jesus – know peace, No Jesus – no peace.”

This also points to the cross and the suffering Jesus had to endure before the Holy Spirit would be given to believers in a way that had not been known in the Old Testament. The Holy Spirit would come and indwell all believers only after Jesus was crucified, buried, risen, and ascended back to his eternal position of glory with the Father.

40 Some of the people therefore, when they heard these words, were saying, "This certainly is the Prophet." 41 Others were saying, "This is the Christ." Still others were saying, "Surely the Christ is not going to come from Galilee, is He? 42 Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the descendants of David, and from Bethlehem, the village where David was?" 43 So a division occurred in the crowd because of Him. 44 Some of them wanted to seize Him, but no one laid hands on Him.

Here comes the same confusion and error that occurred in verses 25 and 27. It shows the contrast between those who know Jesus and are instructed by the Holy Spirit with those who are trying to piece together who Jesus is by their fallen reasoning. They guess at who Jesus is and go back to the promised Prophet or the Christ. They do not understand that Jesus is both. Someone in this crowd knew the basics that the Messiah had to be a descendant of David and be born in Bethlehem.

The result of error is always the same. Division and discord arise. As it did with the crowd, so it happens even in the church today. Division over critical issues of theology should separate true believers from those who are heretics and false teachers who mean to lead people away from Jesus. The sad truth is that problems even occur when Christians who adhere to the same doctrines divide and become hostile to one another over things such as politics. This happens when they ignore the teaching of the Bible and let the errors of the world direct their thoughts and actions.

45 The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, and they said to them, "Why did you not bring Him?" 46 The officers answered, "Never has a man spoken the way this man speaks."

We have charismatic people today who awe their audiences with their charm or oratorical abilities. Some preachers are very gifted, and God uses them, but hopefully, it is the Holy Spirit working through them. We’ve also seen how some people like Hitler could sway a nation when spouting out evil. But there has never been anyone who spoke the way Jesus did. Jesus already gave the primary reason; he was teaching only what the Father wanted him to teach (John 7:16).

47 The Pharisees then answered them, "You have not also been led astray, have you? 48 No one of the rulers or Pharisees has believed in Him, has he? 49 But this crowd which does not know the Law is accursed." 50 Nicodemus (he who came to Him before, being one of them) said to them, 51 "Our Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?" 52 They answered him, "You are not also from Galilee, are you? Search, and see that no prophet arises out of Galilee." 53 [Everyone went to his home.[2]]

This passage gives us a glimpse of several fallacies of debate.[3]Fallacies of debate are methods we use to put down those who have a different opinion than ours when we don’t have a good argument for our opinion or against theirs.

The first is Appeal to Authority. The Pharisees claimed that none of the rulers or Pharisees had believed in Jesus. Since the authorities didn’t believe in him, then they concluded that Jesus could not be the Christ. If the nonbelievers were not part of the authority structure, then this would have been an example of Bandwagon Fallacy where we are called to agree just because others do. Buried in their claim is also the fallacy called Hasty Generalization. They claimed that none of them had believed in Jesus without taking a census. Nicodemus may very well have been a believer by this time. We certainly don’t know the position of all the rulers and Pharisees.

They attacked the person instead of the issue. This is called the Ad Hominem argument. They based their conviction that the soldiers and the crowd were wrong because they were essentially incapable of being right. They accused the soldiers of being led astray and they called the crowd stupid or accursed because they didn’t know the Law, so they supposed.

When Nicodemus tries to inject some sanity to their bias by pointing to the Law, they also put him down. They also use the technique of Appeal to Ignorance. They argue that Jesus can’t be a prophet because their search of Scripture doesn’t predict a prophet from Galilee. However, they have been blinded to the prophecy in Isaiah 9:1-2 which predicts the people will see a great light in Galilee.

Nicodemus is the only one that is setting a biblical example. This is the pattern we should use when we are discussing how to live godly lives. I don’t want to fall into these fallacies either, but I have seen many Christians using these fallacies in their arguments instead of looking to Scripture to understand how we should live.



[1]“Festivals,” Unger, Merrill F., and R. K. Harrison. The New Unger's Bible Dictionary, Chicago: Moody Publishers, 1988. BibleSoft Database.

[2]The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.

[3]https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/

JOHN 7:25-36 (NKJV), CORRUPT LOGIC, KNOW JESUS, SEEK HIM


25 Now some of them from Jerusalem said, "Is this not He whom they seek to kill? 26 But look! He speaks boldly, and they say nothing to Him. Do the rulers know indeed that this is truly the Christ? 27 However, we know where this Man is from; but when the Christ comes, no one knows where He is from."

We are fickle people. Just a few verses previously, the people were accusing Jesus of being demon possessed for thinking someone was trying to kill him. Now they believe that the authorities are really trying to kill him. What happened between verse 20 and verse 25? As stated before, Jesus explained why “someone” was trying to kill him. It was because he broke the Sabbath. That was an “Ah Ha” moment for the crowd. They used logic. The only people who would want to kill someone for breaking the Sabbath would be the religious leaders, the authorities.

Continuing to think logically, they look at the circumstances of Jesus speaking publicly without being hindered and wonder if the authorities really understand that he is the Christ. Note that they aren’t sure since they pose it as a question. However, they don’t stop there. They add their own ignorance to the equation. They believe Jesus was born in Galilee as we will see in John 7:41. They think the Messiah will show up mysteriously. So, adding two wrong beliefs to the one truth, what happens? They get error.

This is a fundamental problem with human reasoning. We are fallen creatures so our reasoning can be faulty, though it isn’t always so. We can do math and always come up with the same answer. However, in human relationships we only need to add one erroneous thought or interpret a motivation and we have conflict and sin. We only need to get one error from a newsfeed to reinforce another and before you know it, you have a conspiracy theory. What comes next? Making bad decisions. What is the solution? Listen to Jesus.

28 Then Jesus cried out, as He taught in the temple, saying, "You both know Me, and you know where I am from; and I have not come of Myself, but He who sent Me is true, whom you do not know.  29 But I know Him, for I am from Him, and He sent Me."

Jesus said that they know him and where he is from. How can that be? They just said the opposite. I think Jesus is telling them that they need to go back to what he has already taught them. He isn’t talking about Galilee or Bethlehem; he is reiterating that he came from the Father. He has already explained this before when he was talking about being the bread of life. He is speaking to those in the crowd who understood this much.

Jesus didn’t come to the earth on his own initiative. The Father sent him. This is sometimes referred to as the Covenant of Redemption. In eternity past, the Trinity – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – made a covenant with each other to redeem lost mankind even before Adam and Eve were created. Jesus is giving us a glimpse of this when the tells us that the one who sent him is true. God is true and cannot lie so this covenant will be fulfilled. Jesus tells the truth that he has known the Father and is here doing the Father’s will. In telling them this, Jesus is explaining that he is part of this covenant and therefore God.

Speaking to those who don’t understand, he says that they don’t know him who sent him. This isn’t that they didn’t understand Jesus’ claim to be sent by the Father, but they don’t KNOW the Father. They have no relationship with him, though they go through all their religious ceremonies and still don’t know the Father. This is the problem with many in our churches today. They go through various religious ceremonies but don’t know Jesus or the Father. I’m not talking only about liturgical churches but even people who get caught up in religious fervor with hyped up music and flashing lights of modern worship. Many in these churches do know Jesus but for others, being members or attenders of these churches doesn’t mean they automatically know Jesus.

30 Therefore they sought to take Him; but no one laid a hand on Him, because His hour had not yet come.  

If there is any doubt about the sovereignty of God, then this should show who is in control. Just as Jesus simply walked away from a crowd that tried to kill him in Nazareth (Luke 4:29-30), he walked away from these. All the demons of hell could not kill Jesus before his appointed time. Jesus trusted the Father to accomplish his will in his timing. He wasn’t presumptuous as was indicated when he waited to come to the feast at the right time.

We should have the same confidence about our lives. Though our mission isn’t the same as Jesus’, our lives are still in the Father’s hands. A fundamental truth is given to us in Psalm 139:16, “Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them” (ESV). From our very conception until our death, God is in control. This doesn’t mean we can be presumptuous and take risks that are foolish. But it does mean our days will not end until we reach that determined day. Even when violence done to us by evil people or “accidents” happen; it is all part of God’s plan.

31 And many of the people believed in Him, and said, "When the Christ comes, will He do more signs than these which this Man has done?" 32 The Pharisees heard the crowd murmuring these things concerning Him, and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take Him.

This is the way it works. Jesus loses some disciples because they can’t or won’t follow his teaching. They are the ones who only want the benefits of miracles. Here, Jesus reiterate he came from the Father and many look to the miracles to authenticate who Jesus is. They put their faith in him. They didn’t just believe but put their faith in him. Putting your faith in Jesus isn’t just believing about him, but it is putting your trust in him. It is trusting him for the forgiveness of sins, salvation from God’s wrath, and substituting his death for our, his righteousness for our unrighteousness, his Lordship for our rebellion, and eternal life for our deadness.

33 Then Jesus said to them, "I shall be with you a little while longer, and then I go to Him who sent Me.  34 You will seek Me and not find Me, and where I am you cannot come."

Jesus has been telling everyone that he came from the Father and now he lets them know that he will be returning. This isn’t astounding especially for us who can look back in history to his death, resurrection, and ascension. But it is interesting that he tells them they will look for him, not find him, and can’t go to where he is going. Who is he talking to? Certainly, the disciples looked in the empty tomb and didn’t find him, yet we have the promise of being with him even as he promised the thief on the other cross.

Many people look for Jesus but don’t find him. There have been three “Quests for the historical Jesus[1]” The problem with these searches is that they are not trying to know Jesus but know about Jesus. They don’t believe that the information provided in the Bible is sufficient to know him because they are not focused on salvation. They won’t find Jesus if they can’t find him in the Bible. If they don’t know Jesus, they will not go to be with him when they die.

35 Then the Jews said among themselves, "Where does He intend to go that we shall not find Him? Does He intend to go to the Dispersion among the Greeks and teach the Greeks? 36 What is this thing that He said, 'You will seek Me and not find Me, and where I am you cannot come'?"

We are back to the reaction of the Jewish leaders. They miss the point that he said he will return to the one who sent him. Had they thought about that, they wouldn’t have speculated on where he was going. They are no different than the ones initiating the quests for the historical Jesus. They are working off flawed human reasoning adding their own error to what Jesus said. No one will come to Jesus if they don’t recognize he came from the Father and that he went back to the Father.

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